Rig Manager

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On the Treeview in RM, near the bottom you should see "All Performances". When you expand that you should see two folders - My Profiler and Local Library. My Profiler has the 125 Performances that are the set physically on your profiler. There will always be 125. You can't add or delete them, you can only change what is in them. Much like patches on a synthesizer. It has some number of slots that you can set up to be whatever you want. Local Library is a set that you may or may not use. It is where you can create and maintain a large library of performances. You might later copy these Local Library performances to one of the 125 My Profiler slots if you plan on using it outside of Rig Manager. Such as at a live show.

Within Rig Manager you can always select and play rigs from any performance - My Profiler or Local Library.

To clear a performance, like one of your 125 in My Profiler, the easiest way is probably to right click it, then click Initialize Performance from the popup menu (you could also use the Edit menu item, then choose Initialize...). This sets the first slot in the performance to a Rig named Crunch (the default Kemper rig) and clears the remaining 4 slots. You can't clear slot 1 in a Performance since all performances must have something in slot 1.

To change the rig in any slot of any performance, there are a few ways to get there. First, make sure your Profiler is in Performance mode and that you have some performance selected for editing. You should see the performance is highlighted and has the headphones icon to the left of its name.

I find it easiest to open a second Window (in RM, click the Window menu item at the top, then New). A second window opens where you can now scroll through all of the Rigs in the top section of RM (the My Profiler and Local Library sections under All Rigs.). From there you can just drag a rig from the second window to the slot you want in your selected performance (whether a My Profiler or Local Library performance). You would be dragging to a slot in the upper right of you first window where you see the 5 slots in the selected performance. Or you can use Copy then Paste to instead of dragging and dropping.

Saving can be a bit odd for many of us in RM, so best to make sure you save any changes after you make them. If you've changed a Performance in My Profiler, you should see a button in the bottom right labeled Replace Performance in <whatever performance # you're editing).

I hope that helps you going.

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Same for me. I thought that’s how I used to do it, copy and paste. But I see no paste command. I’m on a Mac.

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Bug?

I find the Paste command is sometimes disabled. It seems to depend on how you do the Copy. It took me a few goes to copy a rig to a new Performance for an experiment. I had locked everything except the amp and cab, I wanted to preserve the stomps etc. A bit odd

The paste command can be delayed depending on the action you take. I use one instance of RM. I can't have two on my Windows machine. I set the toaster to performance mode. I can then copy a rig out of the browser section and past it into a profile performance and continue on with what I am doing. I can also copy a performance out of my local folder and paste it into the profiler performance. If I were to activate the performance that I intend to past into, then the paste command is not available and I have to wait a few seconds and then right click to see that the paste command has become active. I am copying and pasting with the mouse only and not using hot keys.

I often see an issue after doing quite a bit of copying and pasting where the text and graphics for the slot don't display properly. I can select another performance and then return to the 'bad' one and it will then display properly. This is definitely a bug.

The paste command is only available in certain meaningful scenarios.

You can for example not copy a Rig nor a Performance and paste it in the preset area or vice verse.

You can also not paste a Rig into the list of Performances.

Pasting a Rig into a Slot of a Performance is possible but limited to the Performance which it currently loaded. So a PROFILER needs to be connected, in Performance Mode, and the destination Performance needs to show at the PROFILER display as well as be marked with a headphones icon in the Rig Manager Performance list. This limitation makes sure, that you can hear what you assemble and the Rig you paste is always in focus of the Editor. Consequntly storing the edited Performance is consistently performed via the Store buttons at the bottom of the Editor.

Quote from Burkhard

The paste command is only available in certain meaningful scenarios.

Pasting a Rig into a Slot of a Performance is possible but limited to the Performance which it currently loaded. So a PROFILER needs to be connected, in Performance Mode, and the destination Performance needs to show at the PROFILER display as well as be marked with a headphones icon in the Rig Manager Performance list. This limitation makes sure, that you can hear what you assemble and the Rig you paste is always in focus of the Editor. Consequntly storing the edited Performance is consistently performed via the Store buttons at the bottom of the Editor.

So going slightly off-topic. All this is understood and how I use it. There are bugs in RM:

• I often see an issue after doing quite a bit of copying and pasting where the text and graphics for the slot don't display properly. I can select another performance and then return to the 'bad' one and it will then display properly.
• Setting up morphing in RM with toaster and remote can lead to the morph not being loaded into the toaster properly. After disonnecting RM and controlling via the remote , the morph is not correctly in memory. Repeated attempts to redo the morph via RM are unsuccessful. At that point, I disconnected RM again, and was able to setup the morph succesfully using just the toaster and remote buttons.

Quote from Burkhard

Pasting a Rig into a Slot of a Performance is possible but limited to the Performance which it currently loaded. So a PROFILER needs to be connected, in Performance Mode, and the destination Performance needs to show at the PROFILER display as well as be marked with a headphones icon in the Rig Manager Performance list. This limitation makes sure, that you can hear what you assemble and the Rig you paste is always in focus of the Editor. Consequntly storing the edited Performance is consistently performed via the Store buttons at the bottom of the Editor.

Can I just check this with you as this sometimes works and sometimes not? I suspect my issue might be having the headphones showing but is there an easy way to find a rig copy and then paste it into a slot?

What I tend to do is:

1) select performance mode on KPA

2) select the performance and slot on RM

3) go to rig view and find the rig I want

4) Copy rig

5) go back to performance view on RM

6) select slot

7) Paste

But this doesn't always work. Is this the right flow? I'd like to just be able to click and drag but not sure if you can have a split screen to do this?

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What I tend to do is:

1) select performance mode on KPA

2) select the performance and slot on RM

3) go to rig view and find the rig I want

4) Copy rig

5) go back to performance view on RM

6) select slot

7) Paste

But this doesn't always work. Is this the right flow? I'd like to just be able to click and drag but not sure if you can have a split screen to do this?

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This is exactly what I do on a Windows machine. It works until it doesn't - see the bug I described above. The split screen seems to be different between windows and mac.

Quote from V8guitar

Can I just check this with you as this sometimes works and sometimes not? I suspect my issue might be having the headphones showing but is there an easy way to find a rig copy and then paste it into a slot?

What I tend to do is:

1) select performance mode on KPA

2) select the performance and slot on RM

3) go to rig view and find the rig I want

4) Copy rig

5) go back to performance view on RM

6) select slot

7) Paste

But this doesn't always work. Is this the right flow? I'd like to just be able to click and drag but not sure if you can have a split screen to do this?

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Selecting the Performance (single click) is not sufficient. You need to load it (double click). "Loaded" is where the headphones icon sits.

Selection is sufficient to move items or edit tags. Changes become immediately permanent as soon as Enter is pressed. Even multiple items can be selected.

Loading allows only one item at a time. This is what the Editor is referring to. If you edit e.g. increase Gain the corresponding line in the list changes color from green to red. The same applies if you paste a Rig into a Slot of a loaded Performance. Here explicit storing is required to make modifications stick - like in the hardware. This mode of operation refects loading, editing, and storing of the hardware.

Both, selection and loading can coesist. You can select Performance 3,4,and 5 and copy and paste these into the Local Libary or change their names in one go, while Performance 17 is loaded. Keep that in mind. There is a value in having both modes. However, in this scenario you can only copy & paste or drag & drop Rigs into the Slots of Performance 17.

Thanks for the clarity. I think my confusion is around selecting and loading...

I'll have a play....

Ok, please check it out.

Perhaps it helps to compare Rig Manager selection via single click to typical file manager operations on a PC: moving single or multiple objects, copy & paste, changing file names or file attributes. Dropping, pasting or pressing Enter makes such changes immediately permanent.

But in order to change the content of a Word-file you need to load it in Word. Normally, an explicit store is required at the end to make edits stick. Without storing edits get withdrawn. This is how the PROFILER hardware works. You load one object at a time, edit and then store or leave without storing. And the Editor with its Store buttons at the bottom reflects this approach loading single objects via double click.

My method:

1) select performance mode on KPA

2) select the performance and slot on RM (make sure it's the active one)

3) open a new window

4) find the rig I want

4) double click rig

5) See performance loaded in original window (sometimes you need to activate (set slot to rig name)

6) Save performance

Sorry to jump onto this thread and ask a question

I can no longer copy & paste from RE into Performance. KPA and RM are updated to the latest software.

Thank you

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Sorry to jump onto this thread and ask a question

I can no longer copy & paste from RE into Performance. KPA and RM are updated to the latest software.

Thank you

Did you try click/dragging it where you want it from a "new window"? The method I explained above should work there as well.

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Did you try click/dragging it where you want it from a "new window"? The method I explained above should work there as well

I tried this method and I couldn’t open a new window. RM would only allow 1 application to be open. Still can’t get it to work in any method.

Thank you

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When you say “Windows will only allow 1 application to be open” it sounds as though you might be trying to o-en Rig Manager twoce rather than a second window in Rig Manager. Go to a folder on the left sidebar of RM and right click. The drop down menu will include an option for ‘open in new window” select this and you should be fine.

Thanks Alan! I totally missed that feature. Duh...

Quote from Wheresthedug

When you say “Windows will only allow 1 application to be open” it sounds as though you might be trying to o-en Rig Manager twoce rather than a second window in Rig Manager. Go to a folder on the left sidebar of RM and right click. The drop down menu will include an option for ‘open in new window” select this and you should be fine.

This method doesn’t work either. I can’t drag or copy and paste. Never had this issue before.