Posts by Nothisworld

Does anybody also get an intermitent sound from the KPA when you play back music using the KPA as USB audio? Like stuttering.
It happens to me every so often and I know no other solution than switching it off and on again.
With the same set up, I've had the KPA work perfect as interface but also perform this stuttering sound every now and then when playing back music or any audio from my laptop.
It makes you wanna switch back to using the KPA as before and not as an interface.

For now, my theory is that if I load up Rig Manager or switch the KPA on while there's audio playing from my Mac it might trigger these breaks and interruptions in the playback. So I try to have the the Rig Manager and the KPA load up and ready before I play any audio.

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Im just wondering how would I go about reamping with this feature.

They address some of this here towards minute 6:00 and onwards, but they leave a lot of things unsaid and unclear, like what they are using as Input Device (I asume the Profiler) and as Output Device (Profiler also, or the interface?):

Does anybody also get a very hot DI track-level when using the KPA as the Input Device?
To the point of clipping when you strum the guitar somewhat.

Darn, it sucks.

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Is it possible you had your phone close to the interface at the time but not now?

It is possible. Yes.
But the click was just so similar to the one you hear when you've hooked up through an SPDIF cable but forgot to set the right clock source in the interface.

Thanks guys for the tips.

I switched on my KPA this morning and reamped some stuff. The clicks were gone. I am not aware of having changed or tweaked anything that could have caused the clicks to disappear.

I am concerned that I did not have any control over getting this fixed. I hope I am not claiming victory just too soon.

The old turning it off and on again has worked for now. Fingers crossed.

This is very strange and very annoying.

I am reamping tracks through SPDIF, set my interface to clock source: SPDIF as per the image in the link below, and yet I am getting the clipping or clicking noises in my reamped track that one usually gets when not clocked right. People familiar with reamping via SPDIF will be familiar with these clicks, when you forget to set your interface to SPDIF.

https://drive.google.com/file/…e5BuIvLm/view?usp=sharing

I have been using the KPA for years and reamped with it endless times. This has never happened to me before. Anyone?

As soon as I find a solution, and I hope that's sooner than later, I will post it on here, so I can save other users time if they ever have this annoying issue happen to them.

Quote from Wheresthedug

as a Logic user I can confirm it does have the option of setting up external devices as an effect insert.

Would you mind telling us how you do that?

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but do you have a lot of processing on your master bus?

No I do not. The project is far from being overloaded with plugins. Plus my Mac is pretty new.

Dear lightbox, you're right in time. Thanks for chiming in!

I am on the go so cannot check what you wrote in detail until I get back home.
For the time being though, on this you said:

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1. At the lowest commonly used sample rate of 44.1kHz, the 528 samples you mentioned would equal 12ms

I first tried with 1056 samples, but then I saw that the waveform for the reamped track was ahead exactly by the same lag as the DI was before applying any recording delay. So I set the delay to exactly half of it, that is 528 samples, and it worked just fine.

I may have gauged the wrong lag amount to begin with, and the lag might be 12ms instead of 24-25ms. I did it using the marquee tool in the track window that opens at the bottom of the Logic project screen when you double click on a track stem. I could send snapshots when I am back home, but in any case the 528 samples adjustment seemed to do the trick. Visually both the DI and Reamped waveforms start now at the same point on the grid line, and to my ear they sound aligned with the tempo.

I'll come back to the rest of your points above later when I'm back in my studio.

Thanks a bunch for your input.

Thanks for your input BayouTexan!
The video basically talks about adjusting the recording delay, as I mentioned in the initial post. For now I will work with this, but to put it mildly I am surprised that for a project that's not overloaded at all like mine is, and with devices that are relatively new, I am getting such amount of latency.

I am getting latency when reamping. I think I am getting some too when tracking, which is arguably more worrying since you need low latency to really nail your performance and have it on grid. I will focus here only on the latency I get when I reamp, since I still need to double check that I am indeed getting latency too when tracking.

Hardware & software I am using:

KPA -> Focusrite Scarlett 6i8 -> Logic Pro on an 8 months old MacBook Air

I have set every setting I know to clamp down on latency as best as possible. In Logic:

Low Latency Monitoring Mode is checked.

I/O Buffer Size set to either 128, 32 or 64 Samples

I even downloaded this Focusrite Low Latency widget.

And still this is what I get when I reamp: Lag between DI track and Reamped track (click on to see image)

Notice how the waveform of the Reamped starts later than the DI track. That lag amounts to 25 milliseconds. It's noticeable to the ear when you listen to the song. The reamped track doesn't quite sound on time.

Interestingly enough, lowering the I/O Buffer Size from 128 Samples to 64 Samples, and further down to 32 did not make any difference. The lag between the DI track and the reamped track remained at 25 milliseconds for every buffer size.

Lastly, and given the fact that none of the above seemed to be reducing the reamp latency in the slightest, I set the Recording Delay to -528 Samples as per here to make up for the lag. Now there is no longer a lag between the DI track and the Reamped track.

I feel disappointed that none of the settings aimed at reducing latency mentioned above did much (if anything) and that I had to resort to tweak the recording delay to clamp down on the latency for good. I feel it's just a patch-up to work around an issue which is more fundamental and that in this time an age should be long dealt with by our modern hardware and software.

I don't rule out having omitted or done anything wrong in the process of trying to reduce latency that I describe above. If you have anything to comment to this regard, could you please enlighten me? It will be forever appreciated.

All the best

I am currently reamping in Logic with a Motu M4 and I am not greatly satisfied.

In my case, it so happens that the reamped tone lacks grit compared to the tone when I record straight in (no reamp). I think it should be the same, as both when reamping or recording straight in the profile is set up the same and the sound is coming from the main output of the KPA. But it's not, and that sucks a lot. I may have to fiddle with the settings (perhaps some Reamp Sens here, some more gain there...).

I already returned the Audient and the SSL 2 because they did not cut it for reamping purposes.

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By the way, how is the Motu working for you?

Another issue with the Audient is that it may disconnect itself when my computer goes into sleep mode. It doesn't always happen, but sometimes it does. Enough to get annoyed by it every once in a while.

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Check out my tutorial and see if you have similar settings...

I appreciate the help mate, but I think the Audient has somewhat different settings and your guide doesn't apply exactly the same way to those of us with the Audient.

By the way, how is the Motu working for you? There is a chance that I may still be able to exchange my Audient for the Motu. I'm close to giving up.

Cheers

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About the gain difference issue, sorry if this sounds obvious but it's usually a matter of volume going back in. Make sure the tracks you reamp from Logic (and your DAW master volume) goes back into your interface at +/-0 Db. If you lowered the volume of the track or the master volume in your DAW, the gain will be lower

I think it's got more to do with what luntho said above that the Audient sends everything to its outputs. Even if you have specifically designated just one track to be outputted to the KPA. But this is only one line of exploration.

Hopefully will come back with better news.

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I remember my problem was that I couldn't get the di signal out through output3 only...it was always present in all outputs...

This seems to be my problem as well. Feedback blasting everywhere due to this most probably.

Funnily (not funnily) enough, when I play a song on Spotify this is also "reamped" despite the fact that I am only sending to the KPA a cable off of output 3. This is worrying...

Has anyone managed to make the KPA and the Audient iD14 interface work for reamping? I am struggling big time with it.

Either I get a hideous feedback, or the reamped sound does not quite get all the gain from the KPA, let alone other number of issues.

Here is how the KPA and the Audient iD14 interface are hooked up.

Thanks

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drag and drop in Rig Manager from Local Library to MyProfiler

Hi, any idea on how to keep the folders organised like in our computer of origin?

From what I see, I cannot drag and drop folders. Only profiles. That would mean dropping them in an ocean of profiles and not being able to keep them organised in the destination computer as I have them in the computer of origin.



Thanks.

I've used the SPDIF connection ever since I have the KPA to avoid another DA/AD conversion and to have more inputs available. Also the SPDIF cable is more convenient and less hefty than the jacks.

However not many interfaces provide an SPDIF connection.

As a matter of fact I am in the process of acquiring a new interface and most come with no SPDIF. I am already experiencing, as I am using my new potential interface these days, how much more cumbersome it is to deal with the bloody jacks than with the handy SDIF cable.

Thanks BayouTexan for the clarity and the insight.