Posts by Dragonsf

    I was able to finish the circuit on a perf-board. After some measurements, I found the following settings on the KPA getting the sound quite right:


    FL 173.2050808
    F0 190.4785084
    FH 209.4745836
    Q 5.251754045
    FL 779.4951102
    F0 1155.313357
    FH 1691.398703
    Q 1.266924887

    The resulting KPA settings are:

    Manual Peak Pedal Range Peak Range
    2.168329917 6.323776225 34.15927836 -38 (change this to -41 to get more funk)

    FYI: I think I got all the related data to create the KPA settings for any given Wah. If anyone is interested, I'll create a spread sheet, where you can look up all my compiled data so far or create your own KPA settings. Just ask.

    I measured the frequency response from the wah effect, by sending a white noise signal and measured the spectrum at the output.Peak Position (Q) was at 5 and Peak Range (drive was at 0%). The graph is logarithmic and I disregarded everything above 4000Hz. The pedal range was measure only in the negative range, in the positive range toe frequencies are higher then heel.

    Regarding the inductor-less CS Wah:

    f1 f2 cf Q
    150 250 200 2
    200 300 250 2.5
    420 460 440 11
    900 1100 1010 5.05

    It seems, the Q-Factor depends on the pot setting from 2 (Top = 100k) to 5 with a resonant peak at 440Hz with 11. Can we do that with KPA Wah?

    BTW: I collected the data for some wah types previously:maybe that could help someone. BTW: Do we know, what the KPA Wah settings mean in terms of Freqeuncy range and Q-faktor?


    Wah moduleTypeLow FHigh FQ
    John Petrucci SignatureJP95100 Hz3.2 kHz6
    Cry Baby Bass105Q180 Hz1.8 kHz2
    ColorSound200 Hz2.0 kHz4
    Zakk Wylde Cry BabyZW45250 Hz2.4 kHz2
    MC-404CAE255 Hz1.5 kHz2
    Slash Cry BabySW95270 Hz1.9 kHz2
    Cry Baby MiniCBM95290 Hz1.5 kHz2
    Eddie Van Halen SignatureEVH95290 Hz1.9 kHz6
    Jimi Hendrix SignatureJH1D290 Hz1.5 kHz2
    Joe Bonamassa SignatureJB95290 Hz1.5 kHz4
    Kirk Hammett SignatureKH95300 Hz1.8 kHz2
    Jerry Cantrell SignatureJC95320 Hz2.07 kHz2
    Slash Cry Baby ClassicSC95340 Hz1.7 kHz2
    Cry BabyGCB95350 Hz2.2 kHz4
    Cry Baby ClassicGCB95F350 Hz2.2 kHz2
    Cry Baby Q w/Boost95Q390 Hz2 kHz2
    Clyde McCoy Cry BabyCM95410 Hz2.2 kHz2
    Cry Baby 535QMulti-Wah440 Hz2.2 kHz2
    Dimebag Cry Baby From HellDB01440 Hz2.2 kHz6

    Any news about Colorsound settings (inductor-less and Fuzz/Wah part)?

    I'm trying to rebuild the circuits on Vero at the moment to do some FFT, but a comparison would be fine.

    Looks like a 330 with humbuckers - did you build it or simply refinish it?

    I've build it from scratch. Bought the wood in china, everything else from over the world. The Humbuckers were custom made by Stew Mac for me. Japanese GoTo Tuners, bone nut and brass bridge and tail.

    I haven't read all the 56 pages in the F&Q thread, but which profile (of the 15000+ in the Rig exchange) would be most useful for testing the Kone sound? ATM I'm using the M Britt Dumble profiles, and I can't hear much differences between the imprints. The Kone sounds very god though. Better than my Yamaha DXR12.

    There is another wish list item for adding MIDI-over-USB to the Kemper. It wouldn't surprise me if that were not possible due to hardware limitations.
    That said, the MIDI implementation is pretty comprehensive: there are over 300 NPRN parameters (800+ if you count the 3 other stomps and X and Mod slots). The bottom line is... it's a lot of work to implement all that in a reasonably usable GUI when you're working for free.


    I'd only create a KPA Editor if I saw a reasonably good chance it would help feed my family. Given that everyone wants everything to be free and Kemper just might surprise us and release a KPA Editor... I don't think I'll be spending any time working on one.

    MIDI over USB is possible (did some testing), but as the protocol is not documented, at some point the connection breaks. Protocol is using sysex and not nrpn (AFAIK).

    I seriously doubt the reason previous attempts have failed is because people were short of funding.


    I think a bigger hurdle is that Kemper Amps does not want to provide the necessary information to make third party attempts at an editor viable.


    There's obviously stuff going on under the hood that they don't want other users or competitors to access. That's why most people have abandoned development after some initial promising results.

    I tried to implement the Ctrlr application with MIDI over USB to no avail. As long as the relevant protocol and SysEx information is not available outside Kemper, it's of no use trying.Besides that, some information is not valid anymore. Whatever you offer to an ouside programmer, at some point he'll stuck, as KPS doesn't respond anymore. If you dump the KPA/Rig Man communication, you can see there is a lot going on on undocumented SysEx data.