....when I want to search for peoples experience with the lates Kemper-OS and type 5.5.2 in the search field, I get tons of unrelated posts that just contain the number 5. When I try "5.5.2" I get :
No items matched your search terms: “"5.5.2"”.
So in other words: How do I find the user experience thread to the current firmware
Thanx for your time guys!!
I've done my utmost to establish a convention for OS-discussion-thread naming for quite some time now, GK.
If anyone wondered why I've created these threads so-quickly when the software drops, the reason is so that I can control the title in order to hopefully get the convention to stick, and for the very reason you asked, mate. Such things need to be easily-found IMHO.
Examples of the convention going back to the 5.1.1 beta:
FW 7.1.3 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 7.1.2 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 7.1.1 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 7.1.0 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 6.0.0.14574 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.7.0.14099 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.6.2.13481 Public Beta Feedback Thread (Spring Reverb Preview)
FW 5.5.1.13437 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.5.1.13417 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.4.0.13150 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.3.2.13089 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.3.1.13085 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.3.0.13018 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.2.0.12879 Feedback Thread
FW 5.2.0.12879 Public Beta Feedback Thread
FW 5.1.1.12825 Feedback Thread
FW 5.1.1.12825 Public Beta Feedback Thread
I've experimented with various search strings and approaches, and here're my recommendations:
Click the search icon.
Click the tab to the left of the search field.
Select "More Options" from the pop-up menu.
Enter / paste "FW Feedback Thread" or "Public Beta Feedback Thread" into the new search field.
Click the "Search subject only" checkbox below the field so it's ticked.
Click in the search field again after your entry so the flashing cursor's positioned there and hit return.
Searching for "Public Beta Feedback Thread" will result in a page of beta-discussion thread links.
Searching for "FW Feedback Thread" will show all that have followed "my" (our!) convention, both "release" and beta versions.
I hope this helps many here or my efforts will have been for nought (wouldn't be the first time).
As for your specific request, FW 5.5.2.13463 happens to be the current non-beta release, so logically this subforum is where issues would be posted:
Profiler related issues and trouble shooting help
What tends to happen 'though is that bugs that make it to the public-beta phase are addressed before the release OS versions drop. This is why, looking at my thread-link list above you'll notice a distinct absence of ones created to discuss non-beta versions.
Good luck, mate!
Wow, thank you so much Monkey_Man!!!
I'm not in here so much, so your post really did help me navigating... a lot!! So thanx again!
At the risk of looking even thicker than I am: Searching for "FW 5.5.2.13463" yields only this thread. So there is no thread talking about the current non-beta FW?
Thanx again for the time you put into your very good explanation
You're a star, mate; made my day. My pleasure.
Correct, there's no thread discussing the current release. As I explained, what Kemper calls "Release" versions are pretty much bug-free 'cause of the due diligence they apply during the various beta phases, the final one being the public beta; that's the one we all get to use if we so choose. So, in the rare cases where something might be discovered in one of these "proper" releases, it'll be prominent / current / near-top-of-thread-list, you'd think, in the subforum I suggested above. Here 'tis again:
Profiler related issues and trouble shooting help
Honestly, issues with "Release-level" FW (that stands for firmware, BTW, which is the OS) are so rare I can't even think of one off the top of my head. If you're contemplating upgrading to a release-level FW version therefore, don't sweat it; there's no justification for worrying. Betas are a different story, but in the main they're pretty-damned-good too, just not something you'd normally install before an important gig; not worth the risk, no matter how small.
Anyway, it's this final beta that all those "Public Beta Feedback" threads are about, and IMHO it's important that we have a single thread that collects feedback from users who're trying it out, for a number of reasons. If issues are discovered, they're reported and other users can immediately confirm / deny them, for one thing. Another obvious benefit is that nothing gets "missed" by either users or mods, 'cause it's all there in one place. It goes without saying, of course, that the standardisation of the titles facilitates easy searching, which in turn might help the entire process chug along nicely. That's my hope, anyway.
Cheers mate; gold star for you.
Wow, Monkey_Man, thanx again for taking all that time showing me around the forum
The naming scheme makes a lot of sense to me. So much that I wonder why Kemper don't start them and perhaps sticky them until the next beta comes out
About releases, I still think it would make a lot of sense to have some more centralized document/database... but oh well. Does not mean that I'm saying releases are very buggy... but bugs happen. I did propose that a while back, but the thread was even locked by moderator (still don't get why).
Those are the old threads about that:
I'm not in the forum a lot, so I'm sure for peoply who are in here daily it's less useful than people like me.
Anyway, thanx again for your time, and keep on rockin'
My pleasure, GK.
when I ... type 5.5.2 in the search field, I get tons of unrelated posts that just contain the number 5
That's a limitation of the standard mySQL search engine. If the admin could setup and activate elasticsearch, things would change a lot.
That's a limitation of the standard mySQL search engine. If the admin could setup and activate elasticsearch, things would change a lot.
Has the admin been made aware that that's possible? I would really welcome better searches! Honestly I usually struggle to find the stuff I'm looking for. Since you seem to know a lot more about it: Is there a way for (I think it's called) boolean searches, say AND? The search always seems to choose OR
I also struggle to find stuff with the searches but thout it was just my lack of ability. If it possible to add better search functionality then I would definitely support that request.
Has the admin been made aware that that's possible? I would really welcome better searches!
IIRC it has been suggested here both for the forum and Rig Manager.
Rig Manager's search functionality has been enhanced since the requests were made, but AFAIK the forum's functionality in this regard hasn't changed, not even with the software update.
If my new-forum-software thread hadn't mysteriously disappeared, I'd have added this to the consolidated-request list I maintained in the OP as soon as I saw the issue brought up again. I'm reluctant to even try reconstructing my list and creating another thread 'cause I've no idea why the first one disappeared. Effort for nought, and once bitten...
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Has the admin been made aware that that's possible? I would really welcome better searches! Honestly I usually struggle to find the stuff I'm looking for. Since you seem to know a lot more about it: Is there a way for (I think it's called) boolean searches, say AND? The search always seems to choose OR
The mySQL fulltext search is a very basic, limited and slow search engine. By default it has a minimum search word length of 3 letters, punctuation isn't used in the search index. Elasticsearch is an advanced, super fast search engine but it requires additional software installed, configured and maintained on the server. Most "smaller" websites / forums either don't know about Elasticsearch or don't want the extra effort ... and don't feel the need for it as long as the website has (relatively) little content.
To give just a quick performane example for Elasticsearch ... on a website with more than 1 million posts it can output relevance weighted search results in less than 1 millisecond.
General remark ... elasticsearch isn't an option for Rig Manager. I'm only talking about webserver use. For client applications like Rig Manager there's other advanced database systems that excell over a basic SQL Lite implementation. But that's not the thread topic.
Ok, so in short: At this point there is nothing I can do to get better searches?!
The IT-database stuff you guys talk about is way over my head, but if this would make searches more useful, more power to ya! Where is the petition I need to sign? I would use the search function, but....
Maybe try typing a % at the beginning of your search text. This is a wild card character, so basically it means "anything" followed by what you type. After you type one or two characters more you should see a popup with existing results you can choose from. Here's an example if search for " %Dela".
