Ahhh What's that? A New Kemper Model? Profiler Player

    Yes!

    I've recently been doing the same with the dual delay using crossfeedback. That control works great for achieving that specific rhythm. But I will likely just use the Halo with the player instead of the internal delays. Or...... I may decide to forgo that setting altogether to use the player without a pedalboard. Either way I'm not "bestricken" or even grief struck in any way. Lols

    Was curious if you are using the crossfeedback setting @ 10 or some other setting that works better? Thanks

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    Yes, this is pretty much the story.


    But there is another circumstance that brought us into this direction.

    When you downsize a product, often downsizing the core does not save much cost, e.g. by finding a smaller processor.

    If available at all, it would save a few bugs, but the additional efforts to run and maintain an established software and operating system on a smaller processor easily eat up the marginal cost savings, without creating any advantages for us or the user. No one wins.


    You can see similar situations in the car industy, where three models with different power ratings use the same engine block and sometimes same displacement.

    Electric cars will usually take the same electric motor for different power offerings, because total costs will increase by developing, certifying and manufacturing three different engine sizes, and gaining the opportunity for later over-the-air updates, so users can make a qualified decision about upgrading or not, while they are in the possession of the car already.


    When we released the Profiler Head in the beginning, we had planned to have the power amp be a module that can be purchased later and seamlessly be inserted into the back of the Head, as we had anticipated that it is hard to decide on day one if you will ever make use extensive of the power amp.

    Laws and certification rules prevented us from doing so, unfortunately.

    It is more satisfying and a sustainable business to simply have a happy customer, rather than having to recommend: "Better take the powered version now, you never know what your needs are in the future".


    The possibility for said upgrades came in a natural way to us, as described above,

    And while it wasn't planned at first place, it might create a win-win situation.

    We have the opportunity to offer the same enclosure with different power and different price, and our users have the freedom to decide for more power anytime after the purchase, when they have got familiar with the product.

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    Or you can get a cheap phone or tablet.

    For me, the Player purchase won't be "cheap", so adding a dedicated purchase on top of that won't be an option.


    Thank you for your suggestion mate.


    Unfortunately it requires that I turn the GPU on my 2011 17" MacBook Pro off, as outlined in the notes. That machine is my music-and-movie centre in the living room, so not a good idea.


    I require for various reasons that the OS on the desktop and laptop be the same, so that also destroys the idea I'm afraid.


    Thank you for the suggestion Brother R.

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    I am assuming OS and rigs can be added via thumb drive. Old School

    I'd be 100% down with that!

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    Unfortunately it requires that I turn the GPU on my 2011 17" MacBook Pro off, as outlined in the notes. That machine is my music-and-movie centre in the living room, so not a good idea.


    I require for various reasons that the OS on the desktop and laptop be the same, so that also destroys the idea I'm afraid.


    Thank you for the suggestion Brother R.

    NP. I totally get it.


    FYI….I was able to find a newer Air on FB marketplace for $150. Cheaper options beyond a new Mac are out there. 👍

    “Without music, life would be a mistake.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    I've recently been doing the same with the dual delay using crossfeedback. That control works great for achieving that specific rhythm. But I will likely just use the Halo with the player instead of the internal delays. Or...... I may decide to forgo that setting altogether to use the player without a pedalboard. Either way I'm not "bestricken" or even grief struck in any way. Lols

    Was curious if you are using the crossfeedback setting @ 10 or some other setting that works better? Thanks

    I get close enough to the Halo (on my analog board) using the dual delay on the toaster, crossfeedback between 5 and 10 to taste


    As far as I can tell, the Player atm doesn’t come with a delay that allows getting close, there’s no loop to incorporate the Halo pedal, so I’m afraid the Player isn’t for me.

    I really anticipated on a 3 knob kemper unit hitting the market, and prefer to stick to one ecosystem…but the above plus absence of a global eq keeps a competitors 3 knob unit on my analogboard..and in my gigbag.


    If the “complete enchilada” of efx would come available I’d probably go for it…so here’s a push from one potential buyer to make that happen If it’s written in stone that that will be the case…I wouldn’t mind confirmation that that would also include a global eq.


    And while I’m at this lobby quest with personal preferences, I wouldn’t mind a poly octaver to kick one more pedal of my board

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    Maybe it's me but I still don't get all these discussion...there is a ton of guitarists out there that WANTS to use their own fx pedals with the Kemper (and a lot of people does already). With the head or the rack that required tu run 4 cables back an forth, with the Stage it needs a pedalboard the size of a small apartment. For these people the Player is just perfect. For me the value is to have a smaller unit for all the gigs where the Stage is an overkill (acoustic, small venues, blues/jazz ones) and at the same time a backup that doesn't change my base tones. I understand the wish of a lot of people here to have the full functionality for half the price, but that would be not only stupid but a commercial suicide for the company (we all want to keep the support and continuous updates on the big units, right?).

    If something is too complicated, then you need to learn it better

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    It seems that the Halo does not feature a second delay tap or a crossfeedback.

    Possibly similar to our Single Delay?

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    It seems that the Halo does not feature a second delay tap or a crossfeedback.

    Possibly similar to our Single Delay?

    Not sure it does in the parameters of the unit…but it sure does under the hood. It’s a dotted 8 + 1/4 delay, feeding back in oneanother. So single delay will not work in my mind…

    It’s a populair delay, (Andy Timmons signature preset) maybe worth making a kemper version . The current dual delay can get very very close to my ears…at least good enough for me to ditch the Halo from my “analog board” if the Player can do that

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    Release the Player... then in 6-12 months release the additional features for free as enhancements just like the rest of the big boys (including  Kemper) currently do and keep building value in the Kemper platform.


    It's a not an good idea to charge extra for updates to this device if you ask me, IF that is what Kemper actually intends to do in the future. Charging for feature enhancements puts Kemper hardware products into a totally different category IMO.