Making Harmony Pitch INTELLIGENT

FlyingSnowman · Oct 19th 2014

The Digitech Harmony Man, which I used to own, allows you to vary the key of the song you solo on, by listening what comes in on the sidechain input. Practically speaking, another guitar player (or keyboard player for that matter) could play the chords, and be hooked onto your Harmony Man in the sidechain input, and the key would change automatically by following his chords. This is really a great feature! Would it be possible to add this feature to the Harmony Pitch plugin (which has very good audio quality by the way), by using for example the alternate input?

strengdal · Oct 20th 2014

Great but complicated maybe easier to just have the exp pedal to use different kees, example : toe = minor. heel = Major and transpose in the midle position. Kemper could have a special designed exp pedal for this.

Ingolf · Oct 20th 2014

I agree this would be complicated because the Kemper would need an additional input signal to analyze and generate the intelligent pitch shift.
But theoretically the alt. input could be used for this (fed by a chord playing guitar or keyboard which would only be analyzed but not further processed by the profiler)
I sometimes use a TC Helicon Voivelive 2 and feed it with my guitar signal.
The analysis is very fast and accurate, and the generated voices sound great.

FlyingSnowman · Oct 20th 2014

If Digitech can do it, Kemper definitely can!

paults · Oct 20th 2014

Quote from FlyingSnowman

If Digitech can do it, Kemper definitely can!

True. Now that you have asked for it, they can decide if it is a feature that can fit into their development plan

FlyingSnowman · Sep 4th 2015

no news from Kemper

meambobbo · Sep 4th 2015

I dont get it. If you play a C major on the keyboard, how does it know if you want the harmony key to be C Major, F Major, or G Major ?

FlyingSnowman · Sep 4th 2015

I don't know, but it works. I tried it when I still had it and it works perfectly.

From the manual:

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Optionally connect a second clean guitar so another guitarist can play chords while you solo over them – any of the triad-centered harmony voicings will respond dynamically to the chord changes. The analog Sidechain Thru provides a clean signal that can then be processed and sent to the rhythm guitar amp.

When the HarmonyManTM detects that a mono cable is connected to the Sidechain input, the musIQ function determines the key and scale of the song using the Sidechain Input instead of the Guitar Clean input. Furthermore, when any of the Triad-Centered voicings are selected, the Sidechain signal is analyzed in real-time to determine the chord progression, and this chord progression is used to create the most dynamic harmonies possible. Typically, the Sidechain signal comes from a live rhythm guitar player or a pre-recorded accompaniment signal from a source like the DigiTech® JamManTM Looper.

Note: The Sidechain chord analysis has been optimized for rhythm guitar. For best results, the Sidechain signal should contain full chords strummed in a steady rhythm.

The Harmony Key Display functions differently when a Sidechain signal is detected: the current key is shown as a green LED, and the current detected chord is shown as a yellow LED. This is how the HarmonyMan tells you that the rhythm guitar signal is affecting the harmonies. Note that when using the Sidechain Input, the Harmony Key Display continues to react even when the harmony is turned on.

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More here: http://digitech.com/en-US/products/harmonyman

meambobbo · Sep 4th 2015

So it can follow a progression. Thats cool. But i still feel like you could fool it lol

Monkey_Man · Sep 9th 2015

There's no foolin' you, bobbo. LOL

meambobbo · Sep 9th 2015

The last time i was fooled was 1993. I swore never again.

...actually i was fooled several times by line 6's product feedback feature request form, then subsequently by ideascale. Tell us what you want in the product and we'll make it happen they said. User IR's we replied. 4 years later - hey heres a new $1500 product that can load user IRs. *facepalm* thank god i bought a kpa in the meantime. I would have lost it.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... you dont... uh... YOU WONT FOOL ME AGAIN

Monkey_Man · Sep 10th 2015

100% relatedtitty and aggrieveagement... I mean, agreementage (gee, English's tough) here, bro'.

I too was fooled by the L6 HypeTrain™ more than once.

Shame on... us!

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