Kemper Power Rack + Apogee Duet 2 + Logic Pro X

  • Hi to all,


    I have to record my guitars with the Kemper through an Apogee Duet 2 using Logic Pro X.
    I read that spdif connection is suggested as best perfomance/latency, but the Duet 2 doesn't have the spdif connection.
    So it is correct to connect the main output of the Kemper with 2 XLR cables (connect into L and R main output) to the 2 combo XLR/Jack input of the Duet 2?
    Someone would suggest me a different way to setup the recording connections?


    Thanks in advance, Federico


    P.S. my english is poor, sorry

  • Ciao Federico,


    another option would be to use just one output (Monitor out would do the trick as well) rogether with the Direct Out: you'll have a dry track to reamp in case you want to stack tracks or to try different rigs/amps.

  • Chopshop, would you please expand on your thoughts. I cannot seem to get the sounds out of the KPA that I want and I cannot figure of this re-amping thing. I have tried, read the manual but I am doing something wrong. Any help would be great.


    mojo

    "A single note can be short lived but a melody will last a life time." Paul Muller

  • Chopshop, would you please expand on your thoughts. I cannot seem to get the sounds out of the KPA that I want and I cannot figure of this re-amping thing. I have tried, read the manual but I am doing something wrong. Any help would be great.


    mojo



    Mojorising, what seems to be the exact problem man ? the way I do it is I connect my guitar directly to the Kemper input and I have the XLR going from the Duet to the back of the Kemper, than you open the Maestro software and set the correct input level and XLR connections, and here's a step by step reamping guide posted by highlight :
    1) Set channel for DI signal: You can do this by choosing your
    preferred reamp channel (SPDIF, main output) in the output section. and
    setting the option to GIt Studio. Alternatively, if you want to hear the
    effected sound on the right channel and the DI signal on the right, set
    the mode to Git/Stack. You could always set the SPDIF to git studio and
    the master output to master stereo or vice versa if you have enough
    inputs on your interface.


    2) Adjust the DI output level: This is the commonly ignored step
    that leads people to get into trouble when their DI recording is not hot
    enough/too hot for the reamping process, which causes trouble down the
    line. Click on the input menu and adjust the clean sense parameter to a
    level where clean sounds have the same loudness as the distorted sounds.
    Using Git/Stack in the output section would be useful in such a
    situation, as would having more inputs on your interface. This basically
    ensures that the git studio output is perfectly leveled while keeping
    the noise floor down - adjusting the dynamics of the instrument to the
    digital headroom of the profiler.


    The input LED is a helpful indicator in this regard: it should flash
    yellow consistently when hitting the strings hard. However, avoid a deep
    orange or red colour, which could result in clipping in the DI signal.


    3) Reamping; You should have an SPDIF cable hooked up from your
    interface to the SPDIF input of the Kemper, or a TS cable from the
    interface to the return input of the Kemper. Go to the input section and
    change the input source to either "Return input reamp" or "SPDIF input
    reamp". As soon as you press play on your DAW, you should hear the
    guitar DI being fed to the Kemper. Stop the playback and create another
    track. Set the input on this track to SPDIF or your master output. Don't
    forget to change the output type on the Kemper in the output section to
    master stereo or stack, depending on whether you want to use the Kemper
    delay and reverb or not.


    4) Setting reamp sense: Now comes the final stage of reamping
    before you hit record. You need to play back the DI track through your
    Kemper and watch the input LED. It should turn to yellow on the hardest
    string hits, but not more. You need to set the appropriate level for the
    DI signal from within your DAW by raising or lowering the volume on the
    DI track. Note, this cannot be set in the Kemper.


    This is all you need to do if you're reamping a clean amp, but if
    distorted sounds are what you're going after, there's one more parameter
    to utilise: reamp sense. This is the knob you need to turn if you feel
    the amount of distortion in your profile differs from the original. The
    difference occurs because the DI signal might not be the same as the
    input signal from your guitar. Turn up reamp sense to introduce more
    distortion into your signal, or down to lower it. As mentioned, it's not
    necessary on clean tones.


    In the case of distorted profiles, there is an alternative procedure for
    input levelling that you could follow, given that the clean sense
    levelling and final levelling of reamp sense have an opposite
    relationship. Set reamp sense to the opposite value of the original
    clean sense setting, eg. -2 db and +2db. Then level the amount of
    distortion by adjusting the output volume of the DI track within your
    DAW. Once this is done, you have found the correct input level by
    default and there's no need to watch the input LED.


    5) Arm the track and hit record.
    Let me know how things go, hope all works out for ya. cheers. Ed

  • Thanks for the awesome reply, I have the feedback figured out it was due to a feedback loop in my breakout box. I am going to try this method some and let you guys know how it works out.


    mojo

    "A single note can be short lived but a melody will last a life time." Paul Muller